Are Modern Golf Drivers any EASIER to Hit and can I finding MOI



Mark Crossfield takes the modern golf drivers in an attempt to find MOI in golf drivers. How to hit driver and get the most from your tee shots when it comes to golf tech and golf club design. Golf is full of myths that are sold to golfers and when it comes to the best golf drivers, or the best golf drivers for the money MOI is a term that is used to sell ideas of accuracy and distance. Mark Crossfield golf professional takes months during the lockdowns to see if he could find MIO in golf driver and to see what we are actually being sold when it comes to golf drivers.

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    50 Replies to “Are Modern Golf Drivers any EASIER to Hit and can I finding MOI”

    1. Rick Gray says:

      I found MOI hidden in my pants, apparently I've had it all this time 😁

    2. josh pashia says:

      No I have more consistant carry on a strong 3 wood even having one roll out on a flat hole to 315yards a couple days ago Might be i need to use a 43.5" driver my cobra rad speed tour big 3 wood is all i use off the Tee right now. Short guy problems im only 5'6 shorter clubs have always been easier to strike for me.

    3. Modern technology in golf is a total scam. Per handicap records it has given us less than three strokes a round…and frankly that has more to do with the ball and range finders, and water proof shoes, better course conditions etc.

      Golf is also in a major popularity decline so one could make the argument that the golfers still playing are the most committed and that’s the reason for the ever so slight improvement.

      Just remember…MOA, shaft fitting, 460cc etc…is less impactful than a couple three puts a round

    4. Geoff Coombs says:

      This data is exactly why Henrik Stenson used to game that power 3 wood

    5. Don Harrold says:

      MOI is an engineering term that is a measurement of the resistance to overturning. MOI increases as you distribute weight away from the neutral axis. By definition all modern drivers are going to exhibit a high MOI as they are hollow. No golfer is consistent enough to make a comparison between two modern optimised golf clubs to judge whether designs are intrinsically better from a pure physics perspective. That’s not to say that they won’t be consistently better with a particular club. Design optimisation can only be judged by taking away sources of error using a robot under comparable conditions.

    6. Rich Riker says:

      It seems that MOI is being construed by the golfing public as some sort of way to fix strike and swing built in the club by manufacturers. If I get Mark's point, it related to dispersion, distance and strike quality, which is mostly in the hands of the golfer. Would be interesting to se a driver made by a manufacturer that is totally non conforming but in and of itself provides perfect MOI all the time.

    7. what is the diffance between a draw and one that turns a little left.

    8. Still gaming a Cobra 370SS (20 years old) , cant hit a SIM2 any better why change?

    9. Scot Baxter says:

      Do this with high handicapped. I am currently at 23.4 would be interesting to me. I need to hit the middle of face better. Is the fix for me. Peace bra

    10. Svingit Golf says:

      I don't like big drivers. They are not more forgiving than a 3 wood och a mini driver. Bigger = bigger surface to make misits on.
      I don't need to smash the living shit out of the ball from tee. Only put it in play at a total distane om 270-280 yards. Which I do with a strong lofted 3 wood or mini driver.

    11. Chad Stacey says:

      Mark, can you run a similar test to see if “twist face” helps? Great vid. Thanks!

    12. hermit crab says:

      Just a thought about gear effect on the larger headed drivers. Larger head should twist open more at impact as the strike is farther from the hosel. So, it's possible that the "best" configuration for a neutral golfer is to place weight in the toe to bias the gear effect towards the right side of the course, reducing hook spin by stabilizing the toe. Reminds me of mygolfspy's finding's that the M5 driver with the weights set both in the toe was the highest MOI driver that year. But for the average golfer, if larger heads are necessarily more left biased, that could be seen as a win.

    13. 6 yards shorter in play is better if you are in play more often

    14. John Wood says:

      Re-gripped my old PING Tisi and Titleist 975 last month. Both much straighter than my modern yoke. Ball flight much lower aswell. Of course short when mis hit

    15. Now if there is an upper limit on MOI like there is on COR then at some point the golf club manufactures will max out this value on the "highest MOI driver" and soon all modern day drivers will have the highest value. Now if all of the modern day drivers have the highest MOI value what does that really mean. Now that could mean every modern day driver is as user friendly as Model A compared to Model B as compared to Model C from Manufacturer X compared to Manufacturer Y compared to Manufacturer Z.

    16. man…..bacon and eggs for breakfast????

    17. J K says:

      Golf clubs should come with a disclaimer "This club is only as good as your swing." You've been telling us the same truth for years now Mark, golf is a skill based game, not an equipment based one. I think the litmus test for folks should be if their handicaps are dropping and their scores lowering. If this doesn't happen, well then… go and get a Taylormade driver! 😁

    18. I like to call it a "Gain High Performance" relationship. If you hit the ball, the sweet spot 98% of the time, and are gaming an older driver, a new driver is going to be exponentially better in terms of gains. For the everyday golfer, get used to hitting the center of the face.

    19. jbuburuz says:

      Curious if comparing the Callaway to a taylor made mini driver? Would this have make the two clubs left to right closer ? I don't know anything about mini driver but I heard Dustin had it in the bag at some point.

    20. Chewy V says:

      The most modern driver that looks great and still has that great ting sound is Pings i25 driver

    21. It took me the longest time to get used to the big modern heads! Tee height was easier when they were closer to the other woods height.

    22. Wouldn’t shorter-straighter be a better hit than long-wider, as far as distance and diversion?

    23. I gamed the GBB 8 degree head and man, could I smoke it!! And the sound and feel was amazing!

    24. Hiya mark! Love the content & podcast…long time subscriber to both. I did notice the Callaway was a 7.5° but the Ping was 9° that loft difference would skew the ball speed readings. Also like others have commented I would say your very good with a driver whereas you give a 15 handicapper an old 260cc head compared to a G425Max they would massively struggle.

    25. I remember the big bertha.. To my then eyes, it was absolutely massive. No chance to ever miss such a big head! Now, the PING Max looks, even for my today's eyes, a bit too big.The psychology of "forgiving" is, methinks, the main point in it. People feel (because they've read it) that an iron with a big face and large offset and massive topline is "helping" and they feel that a blade or "players' cavity" with next to no offset, thin topline and short blade length is "unforgiving". I've moved from more or less game-improvement chunky things to JDM forged bladed irons and… well my scoring improved. Probably not because the clubs were "easier" but because bad hits felt harsh, I wanted to not have them, so I worked better/harder and improved. My scores went south because my game improved, not because of my clubs… but clubs sometimes may lead you to an improved game (feeling confident, therefore more relaxed, therefore hitting closer to the centre, or smaller heads making you pay more attention to the centreness of your strikes or like me, having onctuous feels when hit in the sweet spot vs. harsh vibrating feels when "mis-hit" -and losing some yardage, but that's happening also with "easy" clubs)

    26. Wayne Park says:

      Very interesting, the way MOI is advertised, you would think that it is the magic cure for golfers. I guess it's like the elixir that was sold back in the 1800s. It all comes down to skill.

    27. sjgraci says:

      This weekend's results: 9 of 13 fairways with a Titleist persimmon driver, 7 of 13 fairways with a modern Titleist TS3. I hit both drivers equally as good and bad. MOI and forgiveness are vastly overhyped, particularly in irons, but there are definitely differences in launch, looks, flight, and feel. Playing in a big tournament, I'm going with the fitted modern equipment. But, are we really playing better golf? I'm not so sure.

    28. Louis Gutry says:

      Good video Mark. Have you tested the TaylorMade Mini driver? Have been considering it for the reasons of massive misses left and right

    29. Bob Pegram says:

      It would have been interesting if you had removed the grip from the Big Bertha, extended the shaft to the same length as the Ping and then tested them. My guess is because of your high toe miss, the Big Bertha still would have been straighter. For a slicer, the Ping would probably be straighter since slicers rarely hit high toe shots and, instead, hit a lot of heeled shots.

    30. Ed Anzore says:

      Does the stiffness of the shaft affect MOI? Swing Speed?

    31. Ed Anzore says:

      5-7 yards over 20 years is nothing

    32. Oh stop it. Saying no matter what techno babble mfg’s are putting out there we still need to develop a skill to hit the golf ball? That’s crazy talk bra… 🤪

    33. matt raikes says:

      You're a professional golfer. Trust me the gains for Joe average with the ping will be huge.

    34. Nat Hartge says:

      The warbird was a great club and I agree the sound should come back. If the old driver was straighter would it still be with a balata golf ball and would the old ball cause the new driver misses to be worse. If you removed the groves on a warbird would the distance come up to the new drivers?

    35. Gil Garza says:

      Ask Colin Montgomerie what's his favorite driver? He hit it like a 3W!

      And YES! All these new drivers are super easy to hit. My friend has been playing for about 1.5 years and if he swings smooth, the ball just takes off. I keep reminding him how ALL these new clubs are easy to hit. Too bad he can't putt. 😂

    36. Marketing🤷🏻‍♂️

    37. Josh Farrar says:

      Does this mean I should buy a taylormade Mini Driver???👌

    38. Golfisgreat1 says:

      Are you hitting less toe balls with the old driver as the shaft is shorter? Could a longer shaft in the old driver bring its yardage in line with the modern (face conformity aside)?

    39. Flea says:

      It's the ball – that's the change.

    40. Joy Full says:

      I think tiger hit his 975d driver better than anything else he’s used, and it had a steel shaft

    41. Ian Styring says:

      Definitely do this again with different handicap groups. Good video Mark.

    42. Joe Plichter says:

      High moi means high right pushes OB for me. While low spin, deep faced, smaller compact driver heads allow me to keep the spin down and keep the ball in play.

      The fact remains. “forgiveness” does not exist in golf. You can’t buy it. You can however, buy for looks, sound and feel. That Callaway sounds incredible!!!

    43. I gamed Callaway's Biggest Big Bertha back in the day.
      I remember when Ping came out with the (Tisi) driver which looked like a bowling ball on a stick. That thing was huge compared to the Bertha.😂

    44. a e r o d y n a m i c s

    45. Zoo Golf says:

      Coffee and Morning Ya'll throwback!

    46. Can we get more course vlogs please?

    47. I've played all the drivers from persimmon through the latest…and I can honestly say my driving hasn't improved one bit 🙂

    48. MOI. Mythical Or Imaginary. I remember an article by Tom Wishon years ago saying there was no such animal until it was used in the marketing blurb. I agree with you about the small head. I had a persimmon driver with an insert. They didn't go as far then but there again the shaft was 44" long !! That extra length could just be extra shaft length. How about doing a test with those clubs with the same length shaft in.

    49. ssc00p says:

      Finnish word 'Moi' is a casual greetings like in english is 'Hi'

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